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		<title>All Agree &#8220;Yes&#8221; on Deep Bore Tunnel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deep Bore Tunnel &#8220;a go&#8221; according to a Seattle Times Article this morning.  This is a great step in the right direction for Seattle.  Since that first article about a borred tunnel replacement idea published in February 2007 in Puget Sound Magazine, many Seattle commuters wanted to find a way to have it [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep Bore Tunnel &#8220;a go&#8221; according to a <a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/159234.asp">Seattle Times Article</a> this morning.  This is a great step in the right direction for Seattle.  Since that first article about a borred tunnel replacement idea published in February 2007 in <a href="http://www.pugetsoundmagazine.com/articles/a001/10004.php">Puget Sound Magazine</a>, many Seattle commuters wanted to find a way to have it all.  - A better waterfront and a new route constructed without disrupting current traffic flow.</p>
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		<title>Seattle Tube Featured on the Dave Ross Show</title>
		<link>http://blog.seattletube.org/?p=272</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Seattle Tube idea was discussed today on the Dave Ross Show at about 9:15 this morning on Kiro Radio. Here is a link to the archive.  it starts about a quarter way through the show. January 6, 2009 9:00 am-10:00 am
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Seattle Tube idea was discussed today on the <a href="http://www.daveross.com"target="_blank">Dave Ross Show</a> at about 9:15 this morning on Kiro Radio. Here is a link to the archive.  it starts about a quarter way through the show. <a href="http://icestream.bonnint.net/seattle/kiro/2009/01/p_Dave_Ross_Show_20090106_9am.mp3">January 6, 2009 9:00 am-10:00 am</a></p>
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		<title>Seattle Tube &#038; Cascadia Team up to Pitch Deep Bore Tunnel at Public Forum Friday</title>
		<link>http://blog.seattletube.org/?p=254</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Citizens for Seattle Tube and Cascadia plan to present the new “third option” for replacing of the Alaskan Way Viaduct to a public forum. Come join us on Friday, January 9th between 7:00 PM and 9:00 PM at the Top of the Market meeting room (93 Pike Street at the pig) in the heart of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizens for Seattle Tube and Cascadia plan to present the new “third option” for replacing of the Alaskan Way Viaduct to a public forum. Come join us on Friday, January 9th between 7:00 PM and 9:00 PM at the Top of the Market meeting room (93 Pike Street at the pig) in the heart of the Pike Place Market. This is a big deal. We may actually have a chance at solving one of Seattle’s most contentious transportation issues in recent years!<span id="more-254"></span></p>
<p>Seattle Tube proposes a twin tunnel under 6th Avenue with a new expressway to link with I-90 and the West Seattle Freeway.  Cascadia proposes a single bore tunnel under 1st with an alignment to the existing 99 route.  We believe either deep bore tunnel approach is better for Seattle than what is currently on the table.   Come share your ideas and concerns.</p>
<p>It is your city.  This is a unique situation where concerned citizens can triumph over special interests and half-hearted government efforts to solve a complex problem.</p>
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		<title>Seattle Tube Airs on King 5 TV</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 16:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See us on TV today on King 5.  Ralph Allen of Grace Architects discusses Seattle Tube 6th Ave deep bored tunnel option to replace Alaskan Way Viaduct. (See Video Story)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See us on TV today on <a href="http://www.king5.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=318787&#038;she=1" target="_blank">King 5</a>.  Ralph Allen of Grace Architects discusses Seattle Tube 6th Ave deep bored tunnel option to replace Alaskan Way Viaduct. (<a href="http://www.king5.com/video/news-index.html?nvid=318787&#038;she=1" target="_blank">See Video Story</a>)</p>
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		<title>Citizens for Seattle Tube is now on Facebook</title>
		<link>http://blog.seattletube.org/?p=247</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Facebook members:  you can find us on Facebook by logging in and searching &#8220;Citizens for Seattle Tube&#8221;
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		<title>Open Discussion Groups to be Held on Deep Bore Tunnel Options</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Citizens for Seattle Tube invite you to attend one of our discussion groups  on the advantages of replacing the Alaskan Way Viaduct with the Deep Bore Tunnel option.  Given that the governor has delayed her decision until January 12th, we are scheduling drop in discussion events for the following times: 

Monday Jan 5th, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizens for Seattle Tube invite you to attend one of our discussion groups  on the advantages of replacing the Alaskan Way Viaduct with the Deep Bore Tunnel option.  Given that the governor has delayed her decision until January 12th, we are scheduling drop in discussion events for the following times: <span id="more-237"></span><br />
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Monday Jan 5th,                5 pm<br />
Tuesday Jan 6th,                5 pm<br />
Wednesday Jan 7th,         5 pm<br />
Thursday Jan 8th,              5 pm<br />
Friday Jan 9th,                     5 pm<br />
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All sessions will be held at the Post Alley offices of Grace Architects located at 1927 Post Alley in Seattle.  Please join us to learn more about the Deep Bored Tunnel approach generally and the Seattle Tube proposal specifically.  Please come and offer your input and support of the many advantages of this approach: </p>
<p>The Deep Bored Tunnel will: </p>
<p><strong>Remove through town traffic completely from the surface streets of the waterfront and downtown areas allowing:</strong></p>
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- for the creation of a meaningful connection from the city to the waterfront<br />
- The redevelopment of the waterfront to a world class level befitting the city
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<p><strong>The Deep Bore Tunnel technology is an increasingly known methodology with predictable schedule and budget outcomes:</strong></p>
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- The Cascadia center sponsored dialog with the state has opened the way to understanding that the projected costs for this approach are considerably less than previously thought.
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<p><strong>The Deep Bore option holds the possibility to allow the existing Viaduct to remain in operation for longer while major components of the new solution are being constructed. </strong></p>
<p>The Seattle Tube proposal embraces all of these advantages AND…</p>
<p>·         Parses through-town traffic stream from the Downtown destined traffic at the Duwamish crossing, relieving congestion as commuters approach downtown and facilitating traffic flow overall<br />
·         Adds the SODO EXPRESSWAY with the opportunity to strategically link this route to I5 and I90<br />
·         With its uptown route entirely under the 6th ave right of way avoids such challenges as the<br />
o   3rd ave metro tunnel<br />
o   The 4th ave railroad tunnel<br />
o   The city of seattle sewer main running through downtown</p>
<p>Thank you in advance and we look forward to seeing you soon</p>
<p>David Petrich - <a href="http://www.pugetsoundmagazine.com">Puget Sound Magazine</a><br />
Ralph Allen - <a href="http://www. gracearchitectspllc.com">Grace Architects</a></p>
<p>GRACE ARCHITECTS<br />
1927 post alley seattle 98101<br />
Dir. Office Ph. 206.788.4604<br />
Office Ph.  206.957.9800<br />
Fax  206.682.3159<br />
Cell Ph.  206.399.9467<br />
Email  rwallen@gracearchitectspllc.com</p>
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		<title>Alternative Viaduct Replacement Route Offers Ballard Easy Truck Access to I-90</title>
		<link>http://blog.seattletube.org/?p=208</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 04:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Citizens for Seattle Tube is mounting a campaign to publicize an alternative viaduct replacement option that offer Ballard freight haulers and east bound commuters an efficient non-stop route to I-90.  An uptown bored tunnel proposed by Seattle Tube connects highway 99 at the north end of the Battery Street Tunnel to the end of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizens for Seattle Tube is mounting a campaign to publicize an alternative viaduct replacement option that offer Ballard freight haulers and east bound commuters an efficient non-stop route to I-90.  An uptown bored tunnel proposed by Seattle Tube connects highway 99 at the north end of the Battery Street Tunnel to the end of I-90 near Quest Field.  <span id="more-208"></span></p>
<p>Industry leaders in Ballard are concerned about eliminating the Alaskan Way Viaduct because it will make freight and fuel deliveries more difficult.  Many who are responsible for getting cargo in and out of the Ballard area prefer an elevated expressway replacement.  However, easy access to I-90 has always been a problem for eastbound truckers coming off the viaduct from Ballard since ball games and railroad crossings often impede passage between the two routes.</p>
<p>Seattle Tube proponents are hoping to convince ballard businesses about the possibility of building a more efficient transportation route by going under the city rather than along the waterfront. The below 6th Avenue route proposed by Seattle Tube supporters features a smooth even grade that won&#8217;t bog down heavy trucks.   The new SoDo Expressway, also included in the Seattle Tube corridor plan, will carry non-stop traffic down towards the Georgetown area where it will connect with first avenue at Diagonal Street with an exit to the West Seattle Freeway.</p>
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		<title>How West Seattle will Commute To Work</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) will soon be breaking ground on upgrading the aging east end of the West Seattle bridge.  Major utility conduits are already being re-routed to make room for the new construction.  Upgrades include a new two-lane exit to 4th Avenue South, providing West Seattle better access to  downtown. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seattle Department of Transportation (SDOT) will soon be breaking ground on upgrading the aging east end of the West Seattle bridge.  Major utility conduits are already being re-routed to make room for the new construction.  Upgrades include a new two-lane exit to 4th Avenue South, providing West Seattle better access to  downtown.  A new on and off ramp is being added to the westbound lanes from 1st Avenue to replace the old ramp (which will be torn down) presently on 4th Avenue. This means that some down town commuters will go to work on 4th Avenue South and return on 1st Avenue South. <span id="more-162"></span></p>
<p>Citizens for Seattle Tube are requesting that SDOT consider allowing integration of the West Seattle Bridge 4th Avenue exit ramps with the proposed SoDo Expressway.  The SoDo Express way, straddled over 6th Avenue South, is promised to give West Seattle rapid access to the north side of the city as well as a less congested route to reach I-90.  </p>
<p>Seattle Tube anticipates that SDOT will welcome the idea since it will reduce congestion at the I-5 interchange which is currently one of two major bottlenecks for West Seattle in the morning commute.  The proposed eastbound SoDo &#8220;fly over&#8221; ramp will also lighten up the traffic load on the other morning bottle neck where trucks and buses presently slow to a crawl to negotiate the tight turn onto the old northbound 99 route.   </p>
<p>In a meeting yesterday with Councilman Tom Rasmussen and Cascadia Director Bruce Agnew, who viewed the Seattle Tube traffic plan, words of encouragement were offered as they both agreed the proposal should be looked at very closely by both SDOT and WSDOT since it could solve a number of traffic problems plaguing the city.  The proposed plan included a bored tunnel under downtown as a new alternative to the Alaska Way Viaduct replacement project.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.seattletube.org/blogContent/spokaneXchange.gif" alt="Seattle Tube Spokane Street Interchange" target="_blank" /></p>
<p>Above is the proposed West Seattle - SoDo Expressway interchange.  Bellow is the current SDOT plan.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.seattletube.org/blogContent/SpokaneViaductProjectAreasm.jpg" alt="SDOT Spokane Street Modifications" target="_blank" /><br />
Source: <a href="http://www.seattle.gov/Transportation/spokanestreet.htm">Seattle Department of Transportation South Spokane Street Project</a></p>
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		<title>Pro-Tube Commuters Praise Gregoire for Viaduct Delay</title>
		<link>http://blog.seattletube.org/?p=160</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Responsibility for solving one of Seattle most troubling infrastructure problems in years has fallen squarely on the shoulders of the top executive in Washington State.  In the midst of troubling economic times and immense budget shortfalls, Governor Chris Gregoire is expected to make a decision that will effect the vitality of Seattle metropolitan area [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Responsibility for solving one of Seattle most troubling infrastructure problems in years has fallen squarely on the shoulders of the top executive in Washington State.  In the midst of troubling economic times and immense budget shortfalls, Governor Chris Gregoire is expected to make a decision that will effect the vitality of Seattle metropolitan area for decades to come.  <span id="more-160"></span></p>
<p>Citizens for Seattle Tube, a rapidly growing contingency of Seattle area commuters and business owners, is thankful that the Governor has sensed the need to study the Alaskan Way Viaduct replacement project a little further.  The two options put forth by WSDOT, a new waterfront viaduct versus a labyrinth of surface street modifications, just isn&#8217;t solving all the issues for Seattle.  Despite pressure to make a final decision, the governor is doing what good leaders do&#8211;she is making sure that all options are considered.</p>
<p>The Governor has heard hints of a new tunnel possibility that some claim have not been thoroughly evaluated by WSDOT. New technologies have emerged in recent years show that tube-style bored tunnels have proven out to be the best fix for difficult traffic problems like Seattle has.  The governor is looking into seeing if the problem can be solved in &#8220;3D&#8221; while most are still thinking in &#8220;2D&#8221; according to Bruce Agnew of Cascadia, a regional transportation adviser.</p>
<p>When many hear the word &#8220;tunnel&#8221; they are thinking of the waterfront cut and cover tunnel turned down by voters in the 2007 Measure 2 public advisory poll.  It has been difficult for WSDOT to pursue other tunnel options because of the negative stigma generated by the waterfront tunneling folly.  Special interest groups have been highly vocal and influential in garnishing waves of public discord at every turn, frustrating traffic engineers and tainting the possibilities for clear resolutions. The controversy over what to do about the Alaskan Way Viaduct Replacement project has gone on so long that the situation has gotten toxic.  </p>
<p>While the Governor has been adamant about bringing the viaduct situation to a head with the firm position that &#8220;buck stops here&#8221;, she has made it clear that she is not going to condemn Seattle and the State of Washington with results of a marginally supported decision.</p>
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		<title>New Fire Surpression Systems to Make Tunnels Safe for Flamable Trucks</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the issues concerning proponents for replacing the Alaskan Way Viaduct with another elevated structure is the ability to move flammable cargos to Ballard.  Some fear that tunnel options will cut off Ballard from critical fuel supplies and pose public safety threats if fuel trucks are forced to use surface streets through downtown. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the issues concerning proponents for replacing the Alaskan Way Viaduct with another elevated structure is the ability to move flammable cargos to Ballard.  Some fear that tunnel options will cut off Ballard from critical fuel supplies and pose public safety threats if fuel trucks are forced to use surface streets through downtown.   Many assume that new tunnel options would restrict flammable cargo from being transited through them.  <span id="more-135"></span></p>
<p>There is no doubt that tunnel fires can be very hazardous.  One of the worst tunnel accidents occurred in France in 1999 as reported by an article published by <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/35-die-in-worlds-worst-tunnel-fire-1083277.html" target="_blank">The Independent</a> where 35 people lost their lives in a 40 vehicle pile-up.  The vintage 1960&#8217;s era single bore tunnel was lacking modern fire suppression, escape routes and adequate ventilation according to investigators.  Much has been learned since then says experts.  </p>
<p>A number of recent patents filed for tunnel fire suppression systems is evidence that tunnel builders have made extensive progress in making tunnels safe for trucks, busses and cars.  One such technology uses a breathable gas to dowse flames, allowing fires to be quickly extinguished in enclosed tunnel environments.  Extensive work has been done to retrofit tunnels in Japan and Europe with automatic water spray and mists systems which reportedly cool the air quickly around a fire to minimize the effect of hot gasses.</p>
<p>It is not clear yet what fire suppression technologies will be used in a bored tunnel option under downtown, but it is apparent that engineers have a wide range of options to consider.  Citizens for Seattle Tube is pressing engineers to come up with a way to allow safe passage of freight through the 2.2 mile long twin bore tunnel it proposes under 6th avenue connecting South Lake Union with the Sodo District.</p>
<p>A few interesting resources:</p>
<p><a href="http://irc.nrc-cnrc.gc.ca/pubs/fulltext/nrcc49232/nrcc49232.pdf" target="_blank">Challenges for use of fixed fire suppression systems in road tunnel fire protection</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files//PDF/Proceedings/Comparison_of_Fixed_Fure_Fighting_System_Effectiveness_in_Ro.pdf" target="_blank">Comparison of Fixed Fire Fighting System Effectiveness in Road Tunnels-<br />
High-Pressure Mist vs. Standard Sprinkler</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cfd.com.au/cfd_conf03/papers/046Har.pdf" target="_blank">Numerical Simulation of Water Mist Suppression of Tunnel Fire Scenarios</a></p>
<p><a href="www.firepass.com/presentations/FirePASS%20Marseille%20presentation.ppt" " target="_blank">Latest Tunnel Design Concepts For Complete Fire Safety [Download PPT File] </a></p>
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